by Greg Fernandez Jr.
Should Jesse Ventura be challenged for suggesting that Nano-thermite (alone) did not bring down the towers?
If you haven’t heard his claims it’s worth getting some feedback and intelligent discussion going.
Jesse Ventura 6/7/11 – “I was attacked by the 9/11 truthers, unbelievably because of a few things I’ve mentioned and asked questions about on 9/11. I was accused by them of selling out and I got upset over it…”
Here he is referring to the microwave theory. Does anyone have any info or thoughts to share?I just want the truth.
“A lot of that is cointel pro” says Alex Jones. “There are hundreds of these high-def photos released by the government that show for blocks around toasted cars with the metal melted but the vinyl and the dashboards not damaged.. Now what attacks metal and makes it do that but doesn’t affect plastic? Does sound like a super-weapon. I just never really go there because I can’t get folks to understand that a magic passport doesn’t come out of Mohammad Atta’s shirt through the fireball and then be found on the ground by the FBI. The fact that it was found is almost impossible. The fact that it survived unharmed is impossible. So if I can’t get ‘em to even – We have official FEMA Camp purchases by FEMA in the Houston Chronicle and we can’t get folks to admit they’re building FEMA camps. So that’s why I haven’t gone there, but governor, break it down.”
Ventura continues, “It’s a question that came to [me] on some of the reading I did on these toasted cars. It’s remarkable. Alex, there are over 1,000 of them and they were as far away as the FDR; which is probably six, eight blocks from the Trade Center and there were cars flipped over on their hoods; and in the photos you see the cars flipped on its back, but the leaves are still on the trees…how could this happen? What is the explanation for toasted cars all over Manhattan that day?”
“Well you’re not supposed to ask that,” says Alex with sarcasm.
“You don’t do that with conventional demolition,” the governor continues. “I saw a thing on the internet where the nano-thermite people claim the cars got toasted from hot nano-thermite in the dust. Well that’s bogus, Alex, because the dust was hitting people and people were not burning. Obviously the dust was not hot.”
“Well there is an effect,” Jones responds, “where if a fire’s hot enough like an oven, the metal can heat up and then-”
“-Well there’s also the effect,” the governor interrupts, “remember this…Everything that’s burning glows and is hot, but not everything that glows is hot.”
Ventura continues, “I started talking about this on your show and that’s when I really got blasted by people, for even considering questions that, to me, are very relevant. How do you explain this? How do you explain these cars toasted all over Manhattan? If two planes hit two buildings and the buildings crumbled to the ground, whether they were demo’d or whatever, how can buildings falling to the ground toast cars?”
Alex responds, “Well I can have my crew search infrared photos of ground zero molten metal. It was upwards of 2800 degrees two months after 9/11. Cerosine burns at well under a thousand degrees less. We have the video tapes of the firefighters reporting molten metal…giant pools.”
“What about the pictures of them dragging oxygen hoses all over this steaming supposed hot metal? If it were that hot you wouldn’t dare do that, would you?” Ventura asks.
“Well we do have the infrared photos of the molten metal.”
“Well again, what melted the metal? Was it heat?…to me, and the point was made, of putting it in the context of a microwave oven. When you put a piece of chicken on a paper plate and put it in the oven, the chicken will burn and yet the paper plate will be unharmed. And you had all this paper flying all over Manhattan and yet, in the rubble, there wasn’t one file cabinet wrecked or anything. I think they found one from the Tom & Jerry store. Now, what destroys the file cabinets but allows the paper to survive?” Governor Ventura asks a logical question, in my opinion. What do you think?
“That is amazing because we saw the tens-of millions of pieces of paper coming out after it collapsed and then, human body parts weren’t found that were bigger than an inch. Very bizarre,” Alex Jones agrees.
“How does the paper survive, and yet if it was so hot that it could collapse a building, paper burns way faster than metal does.”
Hundreds of floors falling in 10 seconds seems like very little time for papers to catch on fire. If we look at where these papers were coming from, which floors, and at what times from the initial plane strike? Would nano-thermite burn the papers? These are all questions that can be answered by better qualified people. But these are questions that should be allowed to be asked. After all, that’s what we’re fighting for, right? Our rights, our right to not be lied to or murdered by a tyrannical government. We each fight for our on beliefs and reasons but the goal seems to be the same. Truth.
So infighting is something to avoid, but differing opinions should be included in truthful conversations. I think of this every time I come across someone who tells me there were no planes. YOU think there were no planes, but does the evidence show it? and how do you discount all the people who saw the planes? But that person should be allowed to express their opinion. I try to make a clear distinction from opinion and fact. I try to keep an open mind towards differing opinions. I like sharing information, not teaching or being taught.
I am just thinking…Couldn’t the force of the collapse cause enough pressure to shoot the paper out of the building? Could squibs push file cabinets out the windows before they could catch on fire? More importantly, would the presence of nano-thermite mean that papers as such should have been disintegrated instead of spread about the city? Did all of these papers necessarily come from the towers? The towers were not on fire on every floor so would the structural materials from the towers crush the file cabinets?
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with asking the questions, as long as you’re open to the answers you may find. Alex Jones then brings up the secret helicopter that was found after the “bin laden raid.” I haven’t had time to create a transcript for the rest of the interview but is it possible some sort of microwave tech was used? 1:18:37
At this point, I don’t think it would take much effort for Jesse Ventura and Stephen Jones to sit down and discuss these things. Mr. Ventura is very, very open to changing his mind if facts can be presented to him. So while I don’t necessarily agree with Ventura at this point, i don’t disagree either. I too am open to changing my opinion if factual evidence can be put in front of me. I just have to be open to the info and be able to tell bull shit from cow shit.
Ventura was hurt by the attack of some nano-thermite people and called a sell-out for not agreeing with the nano-thermite theory. To be clear, the governor is not suggesting that thermite wasn’t used. He is only adding the microwave theory to this discussion.
Should be called a “disinfo” person for suggesting microwave super weapon technology was used on 9/11? I don’t think so. Does he now have to step up to the plate of debate and compare his findings to that of Steven Jones and the like? Is he hurting the movement by doing this? Not in my opinion.
The nano-thermite people have to come up with a scientific explanation or rebuttal to what Ventura says, “the nano-thermite people claim the cars got toasted from hot nano-thermite in the dust. Well that’s bogus, Alex, because the dust was hitting people and people were not burning. Obviously the dust was not hot.”
If not, then science should help find the truth…to be continued…
(disclaimer: I do not know the background of this website) www.nowpublic.com/…/u-s-microwave-torture-and-how-towers-fell-9-11-nexus
More so, is it possible that a mini-nuclear explosives were used as Susan Lindauer was allegedly told by her handler? She only says that she was told mini-nukes may be used. Is there evidence to suggest they actually used them? have you found any evidence to prove or disprove any of these claims?
Here’s some of what she told Peter B. Collins:
“From May of 2001 I knew this was a serious conspiracy. They were already fully aware of it and they kept, over and over in the summer of 2001 I was instructed at practically every single meeting we talked about the 9/11 warnings. And I was with Richard Fuisz once a week and I would say that at most of those meetings we discussed the worries about 9/11.”
“By June we knew this involved a strike on the World Trade Center. So this was a very well developed plan. But I was told to instruct the Iraqis that at the highest levels of the government, far above the CIA Director or the secretary of state…those people at the very top of government had made the decision that if 9/11 happened there would be war with Iraq.”
“That to me indicates why there as a command failure, a negligence issue. They deliberately stood down from taking easy actions, like alerting NORAD. NORAD had been training for two years, as you all know, on a 9/11 scenario.” “In August of 2001 I was told, stop going to New York because the attack was imminent and we expected mass casualties and it might involve a nuclear, a mini-nuclear device.” (29:27)
“When I was writing my book I was told by a high ranking state department fellow with a very high level security clearance that strange trucks were entering, were documented to have entered the building, the World Trade Center towers between 3 o’clock in the morning and leaving before 5 o’clock in the morning and that this had happened for approximately 10 days to 12 days – in the two weeks prior to 9/11. this happened at the end of august to early September.” (30:28)